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Hello,

Are there (or will there be) any cheats/console codes available (for single player) for this game?  It looks interesting, but my general policy is not to buy games that don't have them available.
 
Thanks!

Interesting, I don't think I've ever heard of anyone with that policy before. :)  Any particular reason for that?

Currently there aren't any cheat codes. You can mess with settings a lot and make completely unbalanced maps and that sort of thing, but there are no cheats as such; I've never thought of them as a feature that people would particularly want. They're easy enough to add though.

I'm open to suggestions for specific cheats you like to see. :)  I guess creating ships, super-upgrades on factories, that kind of thing?

I know it seems like an odd policy - the short explanation for which is that for me, cheat codes add a lot of experimental freedom (ie: fun) to a game - even (or especially) to one that I've gotten bored or frustrated with.  There's been many times when I've been ready to delete a game from my hard disk in disappointment, but using cheats has added enough interest/fun back into it to continue playing and feel like it wasn't a waste of time/money. 

As for specific cheats/codes, some ideas:
- allow you to add one or more ships (user specifiable #) to a selected planet (yours or enemy).
- allow you to upgrade a selected planet's factory (yours or enemy) outside of the one-per-turn limit.
- show how many ships a selected planet has
- change ownership of a planet?
- add a new AI player to existing game?
- change map elements from within the game? (ie: add a new planet)
- change an AI player settings from within the game? (ie: boost an AI's settings or tune it down)
The first 2 or 3 are the basic ones I'd hope for.   The others would be "gravy".

I'll see what I can do.

I Would just like to say:

wtf??????  ::)

cheat codes are a bad idea for the game... terrible idea.. dont make them it will ruin the game.

Well that's one vote for, one vote against... anyone else care to weigh in? :)

To be clear, I would never allow such cheat codes to be used in multiplayer games, and they'd be hidden away sufficiently that you wouldn't be overly tempted to use them in singleplayer.

As a purchase policy it seems a little odd, but I don't see how it detracts from someone else if someone wants to cheat, even making cheats possible in multiplayer is pretty common in many games, although serious play would have them off, naturally.

So... mark me as a vote for: sure, why not?

How does it "ruin the game"?  If you don't like them, don't use them.  Why do you care how I play a single player game?  If I want to put steak sauce on my steak, does it ruin your meal?



I think of cheat availability partly as added game value and partly like an insurance policy.  It makes me a lot more willing to take a chance on purchasing games I might not otherwise consider.

As for multiplayer cheats - I used to have a blast playing Warcraft II with a friend with the instant-build cheat turned on for everyone.  Makes for a frenetic game!  But all I'm really looking for is single-player-only ones, and certainly I'd expect that achievements would be disabled if they were used.


Thanks for your open-mindedness!

Well, OK, I'll add a coda to that: I would never allow such cheat codes to be used in multiplayer games unless specifically enabled. :)

I don't know exactly what value achievements have, but I don't want some kid to cheat his way into anything meaningful.  If somebody enables a cheat, disable any sort of extra benefits they get, like the achievements.  I'm not sure if achievements are Steam-only or what, but hopefully you can have some control over it.

As long as somebody can't just enable a cheat to gain fame, I don't really see any reason not to add them.

I have always thought cheat codes were dumb. I remember in high school when Quake came out and I would see kids playing it on Nightmare difficulty with God Mode enabled.  What is the point in that??  I say no cheats, but maybe an Easter Egg or two... like say funny looking ships or some strange background you enable.

Easter Eggs are cool.  I'd love to know the story behind the "Am I talking to Miranda now?" Achievement.  That has to be some sort of Easter Egg, especially since there is a Miranda on the board here.  ;)

As for cheats, go ahead and implement them.  But also make an achievement that one can only get by using a cheat code in a game.  :)

sorry about my first post i was already having a bad day, this is more how i feel on the subject lol

I wouldnt have a problem with singleplayer cheats but i detest cheating and cheats (sorry but thats my view)
There must eb an option to have them turned off and on any official server they shoiuld be disabled, but to be honest with such a small playerbase cheats shouldnt be implemented in multiplayer at all just yet.

there we go :) a post when im having a decent day

I tend to err on the side of options. Obviously, to use or not use the cheat would be optional, so I don't see why one would vote against them.

No opinion on them personally, though since discovering the usefulness of developer consoles in many games, I would probably end up using them for one reason or another, but probably not to just cheat.

Add another vote for "Sure, why not," but I would put cheats as a low priority on the list.

Speaking of which, what does that list look like so far, Chris? Seems like you've been getting a lot suggestions :P .

Thanks for your input everyone, you've made some good points.


The latter is an amusing coincidence. Go watch Serenity (the movie), then you'll understand. :)


Don't think I'll be doing that... cheats should be strictly optional, in my opinion, and using one is hardly an achievement.


221 entries and counting. That includes everything from bugs and tweaks right up to highly significant features.

When you consider that the most recent version took just over 4 months to arrive and had 21 feature additions/changes and bug fixes listed (besides introducing one or two bugs of its own, including dozens which were created and then squashed during development), that gives you an idea of how long it would take to implement everything...  :P

Of course, by the time I got there the list would have grown again. No creation is ever truly finished. :)

The latter is an amusing coincidence. Go watch Serenity (the movie), then you'll understand. :)


Can I change my name to Mr. Universe? I want to marry a robot. Serenity =  Great Movie

By the way, that reminded to put my standard quote in my signature box.  8)

Be my guest. On both counts. ;D


Yes, yes it is.

Can't stop the signal, Mal...

I just played the game in quick game mode and I just randomly took over a planet called "Miranda" and got an achevement for it after the game I looked at my achevements and though maybe "Miranda" is the name of the creator of the game, Boy was a wrong. XD As for cheating? I'm against it, Why? I never cheat, Cheating's useless, Although if you can make it so you cant collect achevements via cheating and you cant use cheats in multiplayer, then sure.. Put cheats in, although since around mid 2007 I've never entered a cheat code or done anything simular unless it was for testing purposes or in GMod, So I'll never use them.

... If cheats are added, I will refuse to play until iddqd is included.

More seriously, While they do add a little replay value, I would recomend requiring a certian number of achievements completed before they're availiable.  Also, I would think theres some more pressing issues on that list, primarily in bug fixes, whispering and cease fire/alliance systems online.

LOL. :D


Yep!

A bit of a late reply, but I wanted to say that I too, consider whether a game has cheats or not when making a purchase. Although, for me, this does not apply to every game. Generally, if I'm buying an FPS, I tend to purchase the ones that have cheats or the likelyhood of a trainer and tend to avoid those that don't. The reason being that I buy games for enjoyment, not frustration. And there's no point in buying a game if I know I'm not going to be able to complete it. In that respect, having cheats in a single player game is very helpful.

However, I do not feel that Mayhem Intergalactica needs any cheats -- epsecially in single player -- unless those cheats are to help make the game harder. I'm not a brillant games player, but even for me, this game was a little too easy in respect to the AI (on highest settings). So the ability to make the game more challenging -- not less -- would be nice.

Thanks for your input. Improved AI is actually one of the first "big" feature requests that I'd like to get to (bug fixes and some of the smaller, easier features take priority though), so you might get your wish directly instead of having to "cheat" your way to it. :)

Hm, too easy? I'll put that on the list of maps. I'm feeling so evil right now...